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		By: Ricky		</title>
		<link>https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-91519</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2019 21:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know about any of that, or the tripe replies backing any of this.  All I know is that I stopped eating bread and pasta and rice and potatoes and all starchy and all sugary foods and I went from 285 to 235 from June to December last year and I&#039;m still at 235 right now in March 2019.  Meanwhile, all the other guys and gals I see at the gym doing the same things and busting their asses are either heavier or haven&#039;t lost a pound.  I&#039;ve talked to them because they ask me what I&#039;ve been doing because it&#039;s noticeable.  I tell them and they talk nonsense like this article and keep trying to prove me wrong.  But reality don&#039;t lie like a skewed &quot;science based&quot; study...  And not for nothing but &quot;Keto&quot; has been around for decades, so it&#039;s not some fad or junk or bro science.  It&#039;s &quot;proven&quot; to work on many levels and for many &quot;ills&quot;.  You want to promote insulin spiking food, regardless if it makes you fat, and cause the damage to arteries and general cardiac care to keep people dependent on trainers and supplements and meds, then let that be on you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about any of that, or the tripe replies backing any of this.  All I know is that I stopped eating bread and pasta and rice and potatoes and all starchy and all sugary foods and I went from 285 to 235 from June to December last year and I&#8217;m still at 235 right now in March 2019.  Meanwhile, all the other guys and gals I see at the gym doing the same things and busting their asses are either heavier or haven&#8217;t lost a pound.  I&#8217;ve talked to them because they ask me what I&#8217;ve been doing because it&#8217;s noticeable.  I tell them and they talk nonsense like this article and keep trying to prove me wrong.  But reality don&#8217;t lie like a skewed &#8220;science based&#8221; study&#8230;  And not for nothing but &#8220;Keto&#8221; has been around for decades, so it&#8217;s not some fad or junk or bro science.  It&#8217;s &#8220;proven&#8221; to work on many levels and for many &#8220;ills&#8221;.  You want to promote insulin spiking food, regardless if it makes you fat, and cause the damage to arteries and general cardiac care to keep people dependent on trainers and supplements and meds, then let that be on you.</p>
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		By: Alice		</title>
		<link>https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-91474</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2019 06:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Way to republish a million year old article for hits. 

Good luck with being skinny fat in your 30s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to republish a million year old article for hits. </p>
<p>Good luck with being skinny fat in your 30s.</p>
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		By: First Last		</title>
		<link>https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90400</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[First Last]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2018 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90399&quot;&gt;Katie Egervari&lt;/a&gt;.

More ignorant, irrelevant, invalid, and anecdotal drivel. 

&quot;out of date academic text books taught you&quot;

Ha, no dear, this is from valid peer reviewed academic journal articles. These are actual published studies, do not understand what the even means? It&#039;s like I may as well be posting to a coconut. 

A HIGH CARBOHYDRATE LEGUMINOUS FIBRE DIET IMPROVES ALL ASPECTS OF DIABETIC CONTROL

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673681901124

Fatty acids and glucolipotoxicity in the pathogenesis of Type 2 diabetes

http://www.biochemsoctrans.org/content/36/3/348

Sciences shows that you are wrong, so you are wrong. Stop being a hard headed denialist, it&#039;s annoying and only diminishing to your position.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90399">Katie Egervari</a>.</p>
<p>More ignorant, irrelevant, invalid, and anecdotal drivel. </p>
<p>&#8220;out of date academic text books taught you&#8221;</p>
<p>Ha, no dear, this is from valid peer reviewed academic journal articles. These are actual published studies, do not understand what the even means? It&#8217;s like I may as well be posting to a coconut. </p>
<p>A HIGH CARBOHYDRATE LEGUMINOUS FIBRE DIET IMPROVES ALL ASPECTS OF DIABETIC CONTROL</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673681901124" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673681901124</a></p>
<p>Fatty acids and glucolipotoxicity in the pathogenesis of Type 2 diabetes</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biochemsoctrans.org/content/36/3/348" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.biochemsoctrans.org/content/36/3/348</a></p>
<p>Sciences shows that you are wrong, so you are wrong. Stop being a hard headed denialist, it&#8217;s annoying and only diminishing to your position.</p>
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		By: Katie Egervari		</title>
		<link>https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90399</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie Egervari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2018 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90398&quot;&gt;First Last&lt;/a&gt;.

I had type 2 diabetes and I cured it by eating nothing by 15 net carbs a day and consumed pretty much nothing but animal protein, animal fat, eggs, fish, etc. I cured it. My sugars, fasting insulin, cholesterol, and everything is at record low numbers, and it only took 2 months. I ate tons of rib-eye steaks, entire ducks, chicken thighs, lamb and all sorts of things. AND I CURED IT. So much for your theory that it causes insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. I mean, just look at what you&#039;re saying - consuming only fat and protein causes resistances to carbs and sugars. Like omg, you can only become resistance to something when you over consume it, and keto is so so so far from that it&#039;s not even funny. For most people, it&#039;s only 60-80g of total protein per day, depending on lean body mass. You don&#039;t know anything but whatever conventional wisdom and out of date academic text books taught you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90398">First Last</a>.</p>
<p>I had type 2 diabetes and I cured it by eating nothing by 15 net carbs a day and consumed pretty much nothing but animal protein, animal fat, eggs, fish, etc. I cured it. My sugars, fasting insulin, cholesterol, and everything is at record low numbers, and it only took 2 months. I ate tons of rib-eye steaks, entire ducks, chicken thighs, lamb and all sorts of things. AND I CURED IT. So much for your theory that it causes insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. I mean, just look at what you&#8217;re saying &#8211; consuming only fat and protein causes resistances to carbs and sugars. Like omg, you can only become resistance to something when you over consume it, and keto is so so so far from that it&#8217;s not even funny. For most people, it&#8217;s only 60-80g of total protein per day, depending on lean body mass. You don&#8217;t know anything but whatever conventional wisdom and out of date academic text books taught you.</p>
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		By: First Last		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[First Last]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2018 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90397&quot;&gt;Katie Egervari&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I know protein has an insulin response - about 54% that of carbs. The insulin load is still lower, and that is why keto is a moderate protein diet, not a high protein diet.&quot;

&quot;54%&quot; Another made up figure, not sourced in the academic literature. 

The insulin score of beef and chicken is comparable to that of many whole plant foods : https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/66/5/1264/4655967

Dietary insulin doesn&#039;t cause weight gain, and isocaloric diets of any composition result in the SAME weight changes. 

&quot;And you don&#039;t get diabetes from too much animal products. That doesn&#039;t even make sense, as they have zero carbohydrates&quot;

It makes perfect sense, you just have zero understanding of the etiology of diabetes. 

I posted these academic articles before, you either ignored them or are illiterate :

1) Fatty acids and glucolipotoxicity in the pathogenesis of Type 2 diabetes

http://www.biochemsoctrans.org/content/36/3/348

2) Saturated Fatty Acids Synergize with Elevated Glucose to Cause Pancreatic β-Cell Death

https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/144/9/4154/2502540

&quot;How can you have insulin resistance if you don&#039;t consume carbs/sugar coming into the system for?&quot;

Another question revealing your deep rooted ignorance of what diabetes actually is. Insulin resistance is caused by accumulated animal fat inside the muscles, which is what the above journal articles show. 

How and why would eating carbs cause insulin resistance? Why are the lowest rates of diabetes in the world in high carb populations (Okinawans), whilst the highest are in low carb populations (Finnish)?

&quot;because I don&#039;t want people to read your drivel and do something that&#039;s wrong for their health.&quot;

Lol the irony, every word your write is ignorant drivel. It&#039;s your paleo keto fad diet based on pseudo bro science that can actually harm people, vegan diets cure and reverse heart disease and diabetes, as well as many other diseases caused by eating animal foods. Keto diets on the other hand cure absolutely nothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90397">Katie Egervari</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I know protein has an insulin response &#8211; about 54% that of carbs. The insulin load is still lower, and that is why keto is a moderate protein diet, not a high protein diet.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;54%&#8221; Another made up figure, not sourced in the academic literature. </p>
<p>The insulin score of beef and chicken is comparable to that of many whole plant foods : <a href="https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/66/5/1264/4655967" rel="nofollow ugc">https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/66/5/1264/4655967</a></p>
<p>Dietary insulin doesn&#8217;t cause weight gain, and isocaloric diets of any composition result in the SAME weight changes. </p>
<p>&#8220;And you don&#8217;t get diabetes from too much animal products. That doesn&#8217;t even make sense, as they have zero carbohydrates&#8221;</p>
<p>It makes perfect sense, you just have zero understanding of the etiology of diabetes. </p>
<p>I posted these academic articles before, you either ignored them or are illiterate :</p>
<p>1) Fatty acids and glucolipotoxicity in the pathogenesis of Type 2 diabetes</p>
<p><a href="http://www.biochemsoctrans.org/content/36/3/348" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.biochemsoctrans.org/content/36/3/348</a></p>
<p>2) Saturated Fatty Acids Synergize with Elevated Glucose to Cause Pancreatic β-Cell Death</p>
<p><a href="https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/144/9/4154/2502540" rel="nofollow ugc">https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/144/9/4154/2502540</a></p>
<p>&#8220;How can you have insulin resistance if you don&#8217;t consume carbs/sugar coming into the system for?&#8221;</p>
<p>Another question revealing your deep rooted ignorance of what diabetes actually is. Insulin resistance is caused by accumulated animal fat inside the muscles, which is what the above journal articles show. </p>
<p>How and why would eating carbs cause insulin resistance? Why are the lowest rates of diabetes in the world in high carb populations (Okinawans), whilst the highest are in low carb populations (Finnish)?</p>
<p>&#8220;because I don&#8217;t want people to read your drivel and do something that&#8217;s wrong for their health.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lol the irony, every word your write is ignorant drivel. It&#8217;s your paleo keto fad diet based on pseudo bro science that can actually harm people, vegan diets cure and reverse heart disease and diabetes, as well as many other diseases caused by eating animal foods. Keto diets on the other hand cure absolutely nothing.</p>
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		By: Katie Egervari		</title>
		<link>https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90397</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katie Egervari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2018 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90396&quot;&gt;First Last&lt;/a&gt;.

I know protein has an insulin response - about 54% that of carbs. The insulin load is still lower, and that is why keto is a moderate protein diet, not a high protein diet.

And you don&#039;t get diabetes from too much animal products. That doesn&#039;t even make sense, as they have zero carbohydrates. How can you have insulin resistance if you don&#039;t consume carbs/sugar coming into the system for?

I only respond - and this is the last time - because I don&#039;t want people to read your drivel and do something that&#039;s wrong for their health.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dietvsdisease.org/do-carbs-make-you-fat/#comment-90396">First Last</a>.</p>
<p>I know protein has an insulin response &#8211; about 54% that of carbs. The insulin load is still lower, and that is why keto is a moderate protein diet, not a high protein diet.</p>
<p>And you don&#8217;t get diabetes from too much animal products. That doesn&#8217;t even make sense, as they have zero carbohydrates. How can you have insulin resistance if you don&#8217;t consume carbs/sugar coming into the system for?</p>
<p>I only respond &#8211; and this is the last time &#8211; because I don&#8217;t want people to read your drivel and do something that&#8217;s wrong for their health.</p>
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